Livsn Designs

My story

Andrew Gibbs-Dabney

Published on Aug 11, 2022


This update will be different. It's something I feel is important to share before we file our Form C and sign contracts. Essentially, it's something about me. And while I feel sharing it is the right thing to do, in reality it's been so long that I wrestled with sharing it at all. Wefunder and our corporate attorney left it in my court to decide as there is no legal obligation to do so. More important than any obligation is transparency, however, and LIVSN is built on an honest foundation.

So without further rambling, here is a passage I wrote after many years of thinking about the right way to write it.

I hope you read it with compassion, but I'm ready for anything.

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Last week, a famous TV personality and startup investor passed on an investment pitch with LIVSN because of my past.

What follows may come as a surprise to you:

I have a criminal record. 

Does that change how you think of me? Of LIVSN? Of what I’ve accomplished? 

I wouldn’t fault you for saying yes. I don’t lead with it. And while I don’t actively hide it, it’s not something I bring up in casual conversation. In business, I’ve treated it more as a “third date” topic. However, I always disclose it before things get serious.

Before I go on, I should answer the obvious question. What happened? 

In 2011 I was in a different place than I am today. I was deep into a multi-years-long addiction to oxycontin and not doing well. I was 115 pounds, battling withdrawals every day, and deeply in debt to the wrong people. In the midst of this personal turmoil, I made an unthinkable decision.

I robbed a liquor store. 

There was no violence. There were no threats. I think I even said please and sorry. I was in there for over 15 minutes, presumably working up the courage to do the act. You see, I don’t really remember doing it. I recall being there. I recall driving away on my motorcycle, but I don’t recall much detail of the event. What I do know about that night is what I read from the cashier’s witness testimony. 

The next day I purchased a tragically small amount of my drug of choice with my ill-gotten cash and I went camping. In that state of mind, I didn’t even really remember what I had done when I got a call from a friend asking me bluntly “Did you rob a liquor store? Your picture is in the news.”

I packed up my camp, drove back to town, and turned myself in to the police the next morning. I was released. I think they wanted to see what I’d do. Later that day my house was raided and I was taken to jail. 

I started detox in jail. Cold turkey after five years of hard use. It was living hell. Everything hurt. And because I was in a walking boot from a motorcycle crash I was in a solitary confinement cell, locked down for 23 hours a day. My family made the (right) choice to keep me there for three days to think about what I had done and for them to make arrangements.  

After being released on bail with about 4 months until my court date, I was flown straight to Austin, Tx, and enrolled in a 90-day inpatient rehab. This opportunity was due to the good fortune of having a family with the means to pay for this - something I do not take for granted.

I chose to forgo a medicated detox with the intention of fully feeling what was happening to my body. I wanted to remember the pain. I still remember. I didn’t sleep for over a week. Hot was cold. And if anyone reading was in central Texas during the drought of 2011, you know hot was hot. I was shivering outside. I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t laugh. I couldn’t even cry. My body did not know which way was up. I had taken away its crutch. I felt everything for the first time in years. 

I made the choice to accept that this was rock bottom. When you’re at rock bottom there is only one way out. 

Looking at 40 years to life in prison will do that to you. 

What happened next is where my shame turned to pride. 

I took rehabilitation seriously. I engaged in counseling sessions, formed relationships with my peers, and made promises to myself about the kind of life I would pursue if given the opportunity. I took every chance to volunteer my time for community service. I discovered spirituality. I learned to meditate. I began to rebuild myself. And I played a lot of ping pong. 

When I got out of rehab I checked into a sober house in Austin where I continued to work on my recovery by staying active in AA and continuing community service.

Then came my day in court. That makes it sound dramatic as it wasn’t a trial - only sentencing. Thanks to an incredible lawyer, the written character testimony of many friends, my sobriety, and community service the judge agreed to a charge of felony Theft of Property in lieu of Aggravated Robbery. TOP carried a 20-year sentence (10 suspended) and the opportunity for early release through prison boot camp. 

I was given a second chance.

Before I went in, my father told me something I’ll never forget. He said, “they can lock up your body, but they can never imprison your mind.” I thought about that a lot in the coming months. 

I did three months in Washington County Jail, one week in general population at Malvern, and then 105 days of boot camp at Tucker before being released. I could write chapters on my experience in those places, but that’s for another time. 

What I’ll say is losing your freedom is powerful. Incarceration strips people of their humanity. It’s insidious. It’s at once terrible and oddly enough, not that bad. People survive. It taught me that people are adaptable. I am adaptable. 

Prison boot camp taught me to deal with bullshit. It taught me discipline. It taught me patience. It was all the negative parts you see in the movies but without any of the combat training. I learned that boredom is in your mind. Sitting on a cot for 17 hours a day, I was grateful for my time practicing meditation.

I had a lot of time to think. I thought about my family and my friends. I thought about my dog. I thought about what mattered. 

When I was released from prison on a hot July day in central Arkansas, I didn’t know where my life would take me. I just knew I wasn’t going to waste it. 

I got the ball rolling.

Back in Fayetteville, I landed at my father's house and enrolled in our local community college. 

After excelling at college, I was re-admitted to the University of Arkansas and moved into an apartment with a friend. I got a job at the University Bookstore doing shipping and receiving work. 

I started working at a local startup apparel brand and worked my way up from part-time in the warehouse to becoming the CEO serving over 20 employees.

While working full-time, I transferred to John Brown University and earned my Bachelor’s Degree in Organizational Management by attending night classes.

I married the love of my life and together we bought our dream house. 

I started my own company built upon the dream of creating something of value in the world. 

I had two incredible sons who make me happy every single day. 

That time thinking. That time facing the harsh reality of what I’d done. That time considering the consequences. That time all the way from my first day in jail to the last day of boot camp, influenced the person I am today, the life I live, and the business I have built. 

What matters in life are experiences. What matters are relationships. 

My life is good now. 

I am not the man I was in 2011. 

I have a company built on values forged in fire. I’m doing what I love. My past created my present. It created LIVSN. 

My past hasn’t stopped me yet, and it won’t stop me in the future. 

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Thank you for your time. I know how valuable it is.

-Andrew Gibbs-Dabney, Founder




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I believe in second chances 🙏🏿
Me too!
Wow. This is inspirational to read and I applaud you for sharing. I would guess many people would try to hide it and hope no one finds out. The integrity shown by sharing here is a testament to the person you are and the leader so many of us want to invest in. Thanks, Andrew.
Thanks for all you do for me and for LIVSN, Phil!
Brave and wise decision to tell your story! Well done Andrew
Thanks Christopher!
Kudos to you! Not so easy to share something like this. Shit happens and today you are better for it. I have no reservation about backing you. Makes me even more happy to support you. More people than you know have skeletons in their closets. Shame on those that don't have the heart to see through a blip in one's life. Can't wait to see LIVSN go to the moon...you deserve it brother!
Thanks so much, Philip!
Hi Andrew, Thank you for your vulnerable share. It looks and sounds like you have and are doing the transformational work required to achieve real freedom and that you've had and sought good support since your rock bottom. Your story while unique is not unusual and I applaud your choices since 2011 and the deep dive you have surely taken to understand why you ended up addicted and in that liquor store. Bravo, I think more of you for your vulnerable disclosure and choice to share. I have invested and am excited about your focused pants project. I operate the Downing Mountain Lodge and am looking forward to owning a pair as in the morning I may wake in the cool of my canvas wall tent and walk to my meditation chair and yoga mat and pt weights, before ascending the mountain with winch and chainsaw to slowly build the backcountry ski area of my daydreams, and then descending to look after guests or do lodge chores, after which a swim in the river before ping pong club rounds out my day. If you are ever looking for a small lodge retreat in Western Montana and can pull away from the beautiful Ozarks and Buffalo River, look me up, it would be a pleasure to host you and your team and introduce your product locally. Northern Rockies inhabitants wear pants 90% of the year. All the best, John Lehrman 406-531-1486
Thanks John. I want to take you up on that offer very, very much. The Ozarks ARE beautiful, but sometimes a trip west in the Summer is just what the doctor ordered.
I believe sharing, gives one the opportunity to break boundaries. Thanks.
Good thought. Thanks Leteesha!
Thank you for your honesty and transparency. I believe in Livsn and the mission (sustainability and low impact fashion) was the reason I bought my first pair of pants. The character of the company and the compassion you've built into it (when all of my stuff was stolen) is one of the reasons I continue to believe in Livsn. None of us is a singular event, but the sum total of each of the moments of our lives. I believe in Livsn even more and I believe in you and the team you put together. That's why I've chosen to invest. It's your track record...not your past. Best wishes for continued success to you and the Livsn team.
Thanks Steven! Your letter telling us about the theft of all your stuff is still on our office fridge. I'm just happy we could be a small part of your rebuild.
Thank you for sharing your story your past is your strength which would make you make it thank you for sharing
Thanks Carol!
Thanks for sharing Andrew. It must have been hard for you to do this. Believe me it is even more harder leaving it hidden in the closet. That is very brave of you. Am honored to be an investor of LIVSN.
Thanks Pollan!
Be grateful for your past, it's what has brought us to this moment called the present 🎁! Without your story you wouldn't have created such an amazing company! Thank you for sharing with us! There are so many other investors he/she will miss out on an incredible opportunity.
Couldn't agree more about your past/present comment. Cheers Jami!