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Over the course of one night, they engage in a series of increasingly intimate conversations until a shocking revelation sends everything spiraling out of control.This intimate character study explores motherhood, femininity, and the intersection of personal life with art.Our AudienceSee You Then will engage audiences who love Richard Linklater’s Before Trilogy, the films of Hirokazu Kore-Eda and Barry Jenkins. Our immersive cinematography and layered character studies will draw audiences into the conflicted emotional state of our leads.Trans and Asian-American narratives are taking the spotlight at both the box office and film festivals, finding mainstream appeal and a passionate built-in audience. Movies like\u0026nbsp;Crazy Rich Asians,\u0026nbsp;Always Be My Maybe and\u0026nbsp;The Farewell\u0026nbsp;have capitalized on this previously untapped market. Similarly, stories centered around trans characters have found great success -- both on television with\u0026nbsp;Orange is the New Black and\u0026nbsp;Pose;\u0026nbsp;and in\u0026nbsp;movies such as A Fantastic Woman and Tangerine.Our target audience combines these two vibrant demographics,\u0026nbsp;while also\u0026nbsp;speaking authentically to a larger audience.\u0026nbsp;We will maintain a strong presence on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube, in order to connect to audiences. We will also engage with college groups and focus on urban markets with strong LGBTQIA+ and Asian-American presences like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, Austin and Boston.Our Business PlanOur financing will go entirely towards the production of this\u0026nbsp;film; our locations, camera, crew, and cast. Vanishing Angle will bring their expertise and industry relationships to the project, ensuring that we have the\u0026nbsp;best possible festival run, release, and\u0026nbsp;distribution.Mari will be editing the project out of the Vanishing Angle offices and our\u0026nbsp;contracts are organized to give investors privileged returns so that they will see their complete ROI before our team sees a dollar.If the film comes in\u0026nbsp;under budget, the remaining funds will be rolled into the digital marketing of the film, to maximize our festival premiere and the release of the film.Mari directing on the set of SwimDirector's StatementIn 2014, I came out to my parents as trans. My dad offered some cautionary advice, saying that even if I transitioned, all of my personal issues wouldn’t suddenly disappear. At the time I didn’t want to believe him, but today his words ring true. Despite all of the positive effects transitioning has had on my life, I’m still a people pleaser, a workaholic, and someone who continues to struggle with body dysmorphia and depression.Much of See You Then is born out of my personal experiences. For years, the guilt of leading-on my exes plagued me. At the time, it felt like those relationships were a life-line, a way to consider myself “normal.” Maybe — I told myself — maybe if I kept that relationship going and had a family, then that would prevent me from going down the path to my true self. Ultimately, that fantasy ended and a different sort of guilt and depression began to set in— the guilt and depression of never having my own family. Children are an important part of my life and having grandchildren has always been a big dream of my parents. Choosing to transition meant that my chances of having children significantly dropped. It took me many years to admit that this was a possibility.All of these thoughts were rolling around in my head as I began to conceptualize See You Then. The characters of Kris and Naomi slowly took shape, and I truly fell in love with them. For all of their insecurities and failings, these women are undeniably human. See You Then centers around the universal truth that no matter how much we change, part of us will always remain the same.- Mari Walker, Director \u0026amp; Co-WriterOur FilmsOur team has\u0026nbsp;made a number\u0026nbsp;of short and feature\u0026nbsp;films, which have screened at major film festivals around the world and been released independently and through distribution companies like IFC Midnight and The Orchard. Please enjoy them here:\u0026nbsp;Thunder Road \u0026amp; The Beta Test: Two Vanishing Angle Case StudiesOur production company Vanishing Angle produced, marketed, and distributed the feature film Thunder Road, which has made over $400,000 in its first year alone through self-distribution, doubling its budget in ticket sales during its first two weeks in French cinemas. The film also had a successful festival run, winning the Grand Jury Prize at South by Southwest in 2018, screening at the prestigious Cannes Film Festival, and winning awards at film festivals internationally.The Beta Test crew filming in downtown Los AngelesVanishing Angle's next film The Beta Test raised $350,000 through Wefunder this summer, reinforcing the power of connecting to an audience directly for investment. 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Know that we appreciate every single one of you - without your generous belief in us, we could not have made it this far. THANK YOU!SHARE THE NEWSIf you're interested, we would love for all of you to share the happy news on your social media. Please visit @SeeYouThenFilm on all social media, and re-post our announc...","published_at":"2021-02-10T19:21:27Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/141866","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/141866"},{"id":136970,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136970","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"2 Hours Left! And Special Thanks!","preview":"Two hours left to invest in our Wefunder campaign!We couldn’t have made this film without all of our investors through Wefunder. Over 100 people with a minimum of $100 have joined our team since our campaign began. We started on a journey together from preproduction that will go all the way through the eventual release of the film!Our hope is not only to receive more investment for See You Then but to also use the film as a platform to share our filmmaking experiences in hopes that it can hel...","published_at":"2020-08-27T02:01:01Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136970","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136970"},{"id":136950,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136950","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"No Film School: How to Complete a Large Format Film on a Low Budget During a Pandemic","preview":"Hi again! Mia Schulman here (producer) posting on Mari's account.\u0026nbsp;I know I've already posted today and am risking looking like a double texter, but I wanted to make sure you all have a chance to read this. Mari was recently invited to be a guest writer on No Film School, the leading worldwide community of filmmakers, video producers, and independent creatives!This is a really special piece for anyone who is a filmmaking nerd like Mari.\u0026nbsp;In this piece, she shares with you, in glorious...","published_at":"2020-08-25T22:56:51Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136950","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136950"},{"id":136944,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136944","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"Final Facebook Live Chat Today! 2p PDT","preview":"Hi everyone! We have 32 hours left in our WeFunder campaign. To celebrate, we will be completing our final Facebook Live Chat about the film. This chat will feature the core producing team - Mari Walker (director, co-writer, producer), Kristen Uno (co-writer, producer), Matt Miller (producer),\u0026nbsp; and myself, Mia Schulman (producer, 1st AD).\u0026nbsp;We'll talk about the end of physical production, where we're at in post production, the challenges we've faced and conquered due to COVID, and the...","published_at":"2020-08-25T20:06:20Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136944","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136944"},{"id":136916,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136916","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"Voyage LA: Meet Mari Walker","preview":"Hi all! Mia Schulman (Producer) here again on Mari's account. Just wanted to share with you the fun news - Voyage LA did an interview with Mari! HOW COOL!Mari talks about her first forays into filmmaking as youngin', what makes Vanishing Angle so special, and living in LA! Check out the article here:\u0026nbsp;Meet Mari Walker of Vanishing Angle in Atwater Village","published_at":"2020-08-24T17:27:21Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136916","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136916"},{"id":136897,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136897","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"Finding My Voice, Finding Myself","preview":"Hello everyone. This is Mia Schulman, SYT Producer, posting from Mari's account. I wanted to share with you a piece she recently wrote for Medium about finding her voice. Not only does she impart some really great advice to any young filmmaker, but it\u0026nbsp;will give you very genuine insight into her as a person, and as a filmmaker. Hopefully you'll see, as I do, why See You Then is so special. Have some tissues at the ready!\u0026nbsp;Without further ado, please click:\u0026nbsp;Finding My Voice, Findi...","published_at":"2020-08-22T18:13:21Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136897","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136897"},{"id":136844,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136844","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"A Message From Investor Jeff Martin","preview":"A Message From Investor Jeff Martin","published_at":"2020-08-20T16:07:22Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136844","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136844"},{"id":136170,"entity_id":"wefunder:feed_item:136170","type":"FeedItem::Update","visibility":"public","title":"8 days","preview":"Hello to all of our wonderful investors (and followers)! As I'm sure you know, we have just under 8 days left before our campaign closes. What a time to be alive.\u0026nbsp;To all of you who have invested, no matter the amount, THANK YOU! YOU are the ones making the change in what our film industry creates. YOU are the ones directly supporting queer and Asian American artists. YOU are exactly what this country needs in horrifying times like these. Seeing how much all of you care about what we are ...","published_at":"2020-08-19T17:50:20Z","author_name":"Mari Walker","url":"/feed/136170","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/feed/136170"}],"q_and_a":[{"id":75298,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:75298","question":"Ive been hiding for 66 years behind the tough guy image i will never be able to come out of closet id loose all the people i care for in one stroke so please keep making these awareness films so that after im dead it will never be this way for anyone else","author_name":"Aivel M Mckendall","votes":4,"created_at":"2020-01-23T23:57:45Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-75298","answers":[{"id":90297,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:90297","answer":"Thank you for this very honest post Aivel. It's difficult for anyone to hide from the world who they truly are for so long. We hope this film can help you find support and encouragement. Film has always been that way for us as a team, and we hope we continue the tradition of inspiring others. It is important to this team to represent situations, characters, emotions, and experiences that are underrepresented on screen and in media. The more we can make that happen, the more others (like yourself) can realize they have never been alone, and never will be. And hopefully, we can be a small part of the process of moving the world in a direction where no one feels like they need to hide who they are. Because no one should ever have to.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-05-15T17:37:55Z"}]},{"id":200911,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:200911","question":"It's April 12 and I still don't have my K-1. Please expedite","author_name":"Walter Rowntree","votes":2,"created_at":"2022-04-13T04:47:04Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-200911","answers":[]},{"id":129931,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:129931","question":"Hi I was just wondering if we'll be receiving any tax forms for the year ending 2020? I just wanted to check before I file my taxes.","author_name":"Corinthius C. Moffitt","votes":2,"created_at":"2021-02-10T23:36:40Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-129931","answers":[]},{"id":92275,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:92275","question":"How do you plan on making an income on that movie? Are you planning on taking it to movie theaters like most of the others?","author_name":"Wedzer Chery","votes":2,"created_at":"2020-06-03T14:01:09Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-92275","answers":[{"id":94685,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:94685","answer":"Hi Wedzer, thank you for your question, and for your patience in my answer. Because of how the questions were showing up on my feed, I didn't see it until now. I will answer your income question very similarly to another question that was asked of us. And I'll answer the theater question in a different thread. Candidly, most independent films do not see enough income on the film to reach a profit point. Film is considered a high risk investment. The difference between film and other high risk investments (i.e. other startups, tech companies, manufacturing companies, etc) is that a finished film has the ability to continue generating income in perpetuity. There will always be ways to make the film available to audiences, and as the cast and filmmakers continue to do other projects in the future, it can re-spark interest in the film. This is also a unique film because of its focus on LGBTQIA topics, and its representation of characters on screen that are under represented in the industry. There is a large community that supports projects such as this, and many people who want to see people like themselves represented on screen. Mari Walker is also a unique voice in the landscape of filmmaking, which is one of the most important factors we've found in making a film product that stands out. It's clear to us that she is the best person to tell this story, that that comes through in the filmmaking. Finally, Vanishing Angle is uniquely set up as both a production studio, but also as a sales company and distributor. We do not need to rely on others to get the film into the marketplace. While we will seek a distribution partner with more resources, and a strong brand, we also have the ability to bring the film directly to audiences and can effectively market the film with our marketing division, FireShip (www.FireShipMarketing.com). We've recently found great success self releasing our film THUNDER ROAD, and will be releasing a new film next January. That's the long answer. The short answer is YES, we plan on making an income on the movie.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-22T07:02:12Z"},{"id":94686,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:94686","answer":"Hi again Wedzer, in regards to your question about theaters, out plan and goal would be for a theatrical release of the film. Mari is a very cinematic storyteller, and even though the movie largely consists of a conversation between two characters, it very much feels like it was meant to the \"big screen.\" Ultimately, a lot of factors will decide if we ultimately play theaters. First will be our distribution partner and their strategy (e.g. If Netflix makes an offer to acquire the film, it likely wouldn't come with a theatrical component. Depending on the terms of the offer, we may need to consider it). Second, we'll have to evaluate the marketplace at the time. If we release in theaters, we will want to set ourselves up for success. We will have to see how the film plays at festivals in a theater, what other films are playing in theaters at the time of our eventual release, and what the landscape of theaters is in a post pandemic world. I can tell you, out of the 12 feature films that we've produced to date, 9 have played in theaters. So, that's pretty good odds.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-22T07:07:38Z"}]},{"id":111848,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:111848","question":"Hi, hope everyone is well! Was wondering will the movie producers be looking to get it streamed on a service such as Netflix?","author_name":"Thomas Trkula","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-10-22T23:51:44Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-111848","answers":[]},{"id":94407,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:94407","question":"Kind of a random questions but will investors at all levels be given a special thanks credit on IMDB or in the ending credits?","author_name":"Corinthius C. Moffitt","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-06-20T04:03:05Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-94407","answers":[{"id":94682,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:94682","answer":"Hi Corinthius. Yes, we historically give all of our investors a thanks credit in the film. And if it's in the film, we'll make sure it eventually makes it to IMDB as well. Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-22T06:53:50Z"}]},{"id":90263,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:90263","question":"I would like to use an LLC to invest. If I invest more than 25K, when can I meet the production crew","author_name":"Pavan K","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-05-15T12:35:54Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-90263","answers":[{"id":90292,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:90292","answer":"Hi Pavan, thank you for your question and for reaching out. I don't think there are any issues with investing through an LLC. That may be a specific question for WeFunder support, but I haven't heard of it being an issue. In terms of meeting the team, we would be happy to find time to schedule a phone or video conversation in the near future!","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-05-15T16:58:33Z"}]},{"id":73299,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:73299","question":"Hi Matt, Unfortunately your answers still aren't showing up.","author_name":"Corinthius C. Moffitt","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-01-02T18:57:19Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-73299","answers":[{"id":90296,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:90296","answer":"Just sent again! Hopefully that answers all your questions.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-05-15T17:31:55Z"}]},{"id":72693,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:72693","question":"Hi Matt , Thank you for your swift replies to my questions. My apologies for my delayed response. If you don't mind I have just a few more questions. 1. Do you anticipate issuing additional units or having a secondary round of funding which could dilute or adversely affect current investor's holdings? 2. 70- 80% of movies fail to make a profit. How do you intend to attempt to defy this statistic especially given that this is a low budget indie film? 3. It says investors are being paid with net profits. Historically speaking after payments are made to the production company and other partners and entities there are usually no net profits left to distribute to the movie shell corp or llc. How likely is it that investors are going to be repaid their principal and earn a return? What fail-safes do you have in place in order to avoid the historical outcome of everything going to the production companies and other entities while excluding everyone else? Thank you in advance for your time and response. Kind regards, Corinthius C. Moffitt","author_name":"Corinthius C. Moffitt","votes":1,"created_at":"2019-12-24T07:53:41Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-72693","answers":[{"id":72966,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:72966","answer":"Hi Corinthius, I posted an answer to this question yesterday, but now it doesn't seem to be showing up. Perhaps it took too long and the page didn't refresh correctly. Please give me a moment and I will re-write my answer and post a replay shortly.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":1,"created_at":"2019-12-28T18:35:21Z"},{"id":90295,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:90295","answer":"I'm sorry my original answer never made it through. Let me try again now. 1. We do NOT anticipate issuing additional units or having a secondary round of funding past the $250,000 that could dilute or adversely affect current investor's holdings. 2. Yes, you are correct, most independent films do not see a profit. Film is considered a high risk investment. The difference between film and other high risk investments (i.e. other startups, tech companies, manufacturing companies, etc) is that a finished film has the ability to continue generating revenue in perpetuity. There will always be ways to make the film available to audiences, and as the cast and filmmakers continue to do other projects in the future, it can re-spark interest in the film. This is also a unique film because of its focus on LGBTQIA topics, and its representation of characters on screen that are under represented in the industry. There is a large community that supports projects such as this, and many people who want to see people like themselves represented on screen. Mari Walker is also a unique voice in the landscape of filmmaking, which is one of the most important factors we've found in making a film product that stands out. It's clear to us that she is the best person to tell this story, that that comes through in the filmmaking. Finally, Vanishing Angle is uniquely set up as both a production studio, but also as a sales company and distributor. We do not need to rely on others to get the film into the marketplace. While we will seek a distribution partner with more resources, and a strong brand, we also have the ability to bring the film directly to audiences and can effectively market the film with our marketing division, FireShip (www.FireShipMarketing.com). We've recently found great success self releasing our film THUNDER ROAD, and will be releasing a new film next January. 3. Most of this is answered above. To elaborate: Yes, historically after exhibitors (e.g. Theaters, iTunes, etc) take their cut (50-30%), then the distributors recoup their expenses (probably around $30-$100k for a film of this size), and take their fee (20-35%), then sales agents take their fee (10-20%), and SAG residuals (around 7.5%) are paid, it leaves less for the investors. In this instance, the production company, Vanishing Angle, only shares in the 50% producer side of the profit, which is shared only AFTER the film is \"in profit\" and the investors have recouped their investment + 20%. The way we can help increase the probability that the investors see a return is to avoid bad deals with distributors and sales agents by having the power to do it ourselves. Many filmmakers are left with little option, but we've worked hard to create an infrastructure that gives us the freedom to make the best choices possible to make sure the film reaches audiences and revenue flows to the appropriate parties (the filmmakers and the investors, as opposed to sales companies and distributors who come in at the last minute, and capitalize on the hard work others have done). Please let me know if this answers your questions. Thank you for your patience. I'll be sure to get back to you quicker if you have any additional questions in the future.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-05-15T17:31:38Z"}]},{"id":71746,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:71746","question":"Hi I actually have a few questions. 1. What sort of accounting method will be used Hollywood, GAAP, etc.? 2. How soon do you plan on generating and paying a return to investors? 3. What happens to investors if there is a future reboot or someone else buys the rights to the movie or its intellectual property etc? 4. How often will investors be paid annually quarterly etc? 5. Do you have any potential earnings estimates and how would they correlate as a yield on a per share basis to possible investors for future earnings? 6. Are returns paid in perpetuity? 7. Do you have a completion bond? 8. Are you pursuing any tax incentives? 9. Are film revenues being used to pay investors first? 10. How will any SAG-AFTRA regulations effect profitability, film schedules, revenues, and investor returns? 11. What sort of tax forms will be issued 1099, K-1, etc. ? Thank you for your time and response. Kind regards, Corinthius Moffitt","author_name":"Corinthius C. Moffitt","votes":1,"created_at":"2019-12-15T23:07:39Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-71746","answers":[{"id":71761,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:71761","answer":"Hi, this is Matt Miller, President of the production company behind the project. Let me see if i can answer your questions to the best of my ability. Please note that none of this response should be taken as an official legal stance on the production or investment, and that if you're interested in investing you should carefully read the Operating Agreement and Investor Funding Agreement. We also recommend you consult with an attorney and tax accountant. My responses are based on my own personal understanding of the financial structure of the film and and my personal experiences as a producer on 15 feature films. 1. For the production period, we do accounting internally at Vanishing Angle. For past projects its a mix of real time tracking with document in Google Sheets, and bank reconciliations through Quickbooks or Greenslate. We then cross references the two methods to make sure nothing is missed. The process varies when we get to the distribution phase. Depending on the size and complication of the international and domestic sales and release, we could use a third party collections account. We would make WeFunder a party on that account and revenue to be distributed by them. If the scope of the sales \u0026amp; distribution is smaller and simpler we will handle accounting in house with a similar method to what is used in production, using both Google Sheets and Quickbooks or Greenslate. All tax accounting and filing is done by a third party CPA. Historically we've use EMT Tax Services. 2. The film is on schedule for production this coming January. Post production is estimated to complete in summer '20, preparing us for the winter/spring '21 festival submissions which will begin in Sept '20. Our goal would be to premiere at a major festival sometime between January - May '21 (i.e. Sundance, Berlin, SXSW, Tribeca, Cannes. etc) or a regional festival summer '20. Based on the premiere we would hope to a secure domestic distribution partner. There is a chance we would begin seeing revenue at this stage, with the distribution company paying a \"minimum guarantee\" once we deliver the film (so as early as summer '21). We would hope to commercial release the film in the fall of '21 or winter of '22, at which point we would see revenue after the distribution costs are recouped. Distributors typically report account every quarter, at which point they typically have 30 days to pay the production entity (i.e. SYT Films), we would then make a distribution to WeFunder before the end of that current Quarter. 3. For this project, the intellectual property stays with Mari, the writer/director, so there would be no direct benefit to investors for the rights to future productions, spinoffs, reboots, etc. However, in the event that would happen, it would surely signify this project has done well enough to merit such actions and the investors would likely be in a really good place (financially speaking). Also, such additional properties existing in the world would only benefit audiences demand for this project. So, it would still be a win overall. 4. Per my notes above, whenever revenue exists, it will be distributed to Investors quarterly. 5. We do not have a potential earnings statement. Such models in independent film at this time are often mis-leading to investors, so we tend to avoid them. The marketplace is so rapidly changing on a day-to-day basis because of changes to exhibition platforms (i.e. streaming services). What we can point to is a track record of continual critical and audience success with projects of this size and scope the past 9 years Vanishing Angle has been production projects. The revenue streams, timing and amounts for those projects have all been wildly different, based on the specifics of each project. 6. Yes, returns are paid in perpetuity. 7. As a production company, we have experience with bonding films, most recently for a studio movie we shot earlier this year. \"See You Then\" will NOT be a bonded film. A film of his size and scope is considerably a lower risk financially in comparison to films that are typically bonded. If we were to bond the film, it would increase the budget of the film to accommodate the bond company and Their needs, and therefore, increase the financial risk of the project, which would defeat the purpose on bonding the project in the first place. 8. We are not pursuing any tax incentives. For the budget level we are making the film at, there are a limited amount of states that we would meet the minimum threshold. The California tax incentive is not really designed or set up to benefit films of this size. It would waste more financial resources to try and travel to another stage, and would negate the resources we have by shooting on \"home turf.\" Because we are a very active company with both film and commercials, we have a strong bases of crew, vendors and favors in Los Angeles that will greatly benefit this project. 9. For revenue received by the producers from the distribution company(s), a small amount would first go to SAG residuals, or a collections account (if we have one), then it would go to paying off any debit or deferments. Then it would go directly to investor recoupment and their preferred rate of return, prior to being \"in profit\" where those profits will split 50/50 between investors and the producer pool (which includes points given to actors, crew, etc). 10. It shouldn't have to much of an effect with the exception of residuals that are required to pay out immediately as the film begins making money. Its roughly around 6.7% of gross revenue. 11. You will receive a K-1 for your tax purposes as an investor. Please forgive any spelling or grammar errors as I write this. And don't hesitate to let me know if you have any additional questions. I am happy to be helpful in any way I can.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":1,"created_at":"2019-12-16T03:14:56Z"}]},{"id":71650,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:71650","question":"Hello! Just from the clip I am excited about this film, but I wanted to know when is the last day to invest in the film?","author_name":"Erinn Devers","votes":1,"created_at":"2019-12-14T08:42:56Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-71650","answers":[{"id":71770,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:71770","answer":"Hi Erinn, thank you so much for your interest in the film and for your question! We haven't announced an end date for the campaign as of yet, but, we're hoping to receive the needed funding by early January, and feel confident based on our last campaign that we can reach that goal!","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":1,"created_at":"2019-12-16T05:42:48Z"}]},{"id":95727,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:95727","question":"I\u0026nbsp;know it's past 6/26 -- I forgot to invest this weekend...is there any way to still invest?\u0026nbsp;","author_name":"Jennifer Hamilton","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-29T17:56:08Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-95727","answers":[{"id":96077,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:96077","answer":"Hi Jennifer. Thank you for your question. We've extended the date to invest until 8/26. So you can still invest at this time. Please reach out if you have any issues or any other questions.\u0026nbsp;","author_name":"Mari Walker","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-07-01T20:02:47Z"}]},{"id":95416,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:95416","question":"When is the last day to invest?","author_name":"Corinthius C. Moffitt","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-27T04:58:20Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-95416","answers":[{"id":95634,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:95634","answer":"Hi Corinthius, good to be corresponding with you again. When you sent this, we were anticipating closing the campaign on June 26th. However, because of everything going on in the world right now, we thought it was best to allow a little more time for individuals to get through these challenging times before considering an investment. So we've extended through August 26th. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any other questions.\u0026nbsp;","author_name":"Mari Walker","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-06-29T01:21:10Z"}]},{"id":94405,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:94405","question":"What's your current social media strategy?","author_name":"AJ Cartas","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-20T04:02:29Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-94405","answers":[{"id":94684,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:94684","answer":"Hi AJ, thank you for your question. Social media is one of the key aspects to engaging an audience and releasing a film of this size. It is of the most importance to us. We've historically had a lot of success in social promotion in the past with our projects like THUNDER ROAD. The strategy is always shifting, depending on what tools are available, and what is going on in the world. But generally, the key is to hone in on our direct audience first, and engage them. The more specific we get to start of WHO wants to see movies like SEE YOU THEN, and WHO will like movies like SEE YOU THEN, the more success we can eventually have broadly. So we'll build a list of categories that we think make-up our specific audience, and target them with some assets (stills, trailers, posts, etc). We'll use those early assets to gage what is working and not working on our targeting depending on overall engagement. The goal is to hone in on the right tags by the time the film is commercially available. Let me know if this answered you question, or if there are more specific questions you have. I am happy to answer them.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-06-22T06:58:28Z"}]},{"id":89756,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:89756","question":"Please would you answer clearly this - Just For example If I invest $500 - when /how/ how much(money or %) return will I get ?","author_name":"PRAKASH CHAVDA","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-05-12T13:28:12Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-89756","answers":[{"id":90294,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:90294","answer":"Hi Prakash, thank you for your question. I will try and answer it as best I can. If you invest $500, the percentage of that investment will change over time. For instance, with our current raise of $153,250, your $500 would put it at $153,750. So, $500 would be worth .325% of that. So for every $100 the film earned in revenue, you would receive 3 cents until the film receives $184,500 (the principal investment + 20%), at which point you would have received $600 (your $500 investment + 20%). Once the film is \"in Profit\", revenue is split 50/50 with the investors and the producers. So, at that point, you would receive .163% of all profit (16 cents per hundred dollars). If we raise the full $250,000 goal, that proportion changes. At that point a $500 investment is worth 2% of the total. Revenue will be generated for the film through sales of the film (i.e. Theaters, iTunes, Amazon, Google Play, etc). One that exhibitor takes their cut, the net revenue will pass to the distributor, who takes their fee and recoups their expenses, then a sales again (should we decide to have one), who takes their fee and recoups their expenses, then the film flows into the LLC we have set up. At that point, we report it to WeFunder and send them the money to disburse to the investors. Revenue is typically reported quarterly at each stage it changes hand, and then the parties have 30-60 days to disburse that payment, so it can take a few months for money to flow to the final parties. To be clear, revenue on the film, and return on investment is NOT guaranteed. However, we feel confident this film fits a targeted niche audience that will be very supportive. We also feel like we're making the film at a cost that increases the chances for recoupment. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.","author_name":"Matt Miller","votes":1,"created_at":"2020-05-15T17:13:58Z"}]},{"id":73894,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:73894","question":"What is the anticipated closing date of this round?","author_name":"Nana Dooreck","votes":0,"created_at":"2020-01-10T17:52:41Z","canonical_url":"https://wefunder.com/seeyouthenfilm#question-73894","answers":[{"id":74131,"entity_id":"wefunder:comment:74131","answer":"Hi Nana, thank you for your question. We have not set a specific date for closing the funding yet. However, we are in the process of pulling out our first tranche for production (which starts tonight!). If you are considering investing, it is helpful to the campaign to invest sooner than later for many reasons. Please let me know if you have any other questions.\u0026nbsp;","author_name":"Mari Walker","votes":4,"created_at":"2020-01-14T14:17:40Z"}]}],"faq":[{"question":"Hello! Just from the clip I am excited about this film, but I wanted to know when is the last day to invest in the film?","answer":"Hi Erinn, thank you so much for your interest in the film and for your question! We haven't announced an end date for the campaign as of yet, but, we're hoping to receive the needed funding by early January, and feel confident based on our last campaign that we can reach that goal!"},{"question":"Hi I actually have a few questions. 1. What sort of accounting method will be used Hollywood, GAAP, etc.? 2. How soon do you plan on generating and paying a return to investors? 3. What happens to investors if there is a future reboot or someone else buys the rights to the mov...","answer":"Hi, this is Matt Miller, President of the production company behind the project. Let me see if i can answer your questions to the best of my ability. Please note that none of this response should be taken as an official legal stance on the production or investment, and that if you're interested in investing you should carefully read the Operating Agreement and Investor Funding Agreement. We also recommend you consult with an attorney and tax accountant. My responses are based on my own person..."},{"question":"Hi Matt , Thank you for your swift replies to my questions. My apologies for my delayed response. If you don't mind I have just a few more questions. 1. Do you anticipate issuing additional units or having a secondary round of funding which could dilute or adversely affect cur...","answer":"Hi Corinthius, I posted an answer to this question yesterday, but now it doesn't seem to be showing up. Perhaps it took too long and the page didn't refresh correctly. Please give me a moment and I will re-write my answer and post a replay shortly."},{"question":"Hi Matt, Unfortunately your answers still aren't showing up.","answer":"Just sent again! Hopefully that answers all your questions."},{"question":"What is the anticipated closing date of this round?","answer":"Hi Nana, thank you for your question. We have not set a specific date for closing the funding yet. However, we are in the process of pulling out our first tranche for production (which starts tonight!). If you are considering investing, it is helpful to the campaign to invest sooner than later for many reasons. Please let me know if you have any other questions.\u0026nbsp;"}]}}}